I got stuck with a FAILING Tesla Model S Performance (shows how WASTEFUL electric cars can be) (2024)

@abikelife14812 года назад ⁺⁹

Yeah and most electricity produced by coal burning anyways, so it's all a bunch of virtue signaling. All the materials necessary to make a new car.

@justhecuke2 года назад ⁺⁵

Mileage is still a factor... Batteries are commonly rated on charge cycles (when you discharge and charge) which is basically a way to describe mileage. But you're right that time is also a big factor that largely isn't an issue with ICE cars other than for things like rust or rubber degradation (especially tires on heavier cars).

@danielnelson48812 года назад

@@justhecuke "on heavier cars" speaking of electric vehicles.... Crash ratings are going to have to improve drastically considering *just how much extra weight* a Tesla, or any electric vehicle is carrying around. Weight that's low to the ground and may not make the car feel sluggish in the corners. Weight that can easily be countered by the blistering torque of electricity to make the car never feel slow. But also weight that will kill a family of four in a 97 dodge caravan with horrifying efficiency should they get into more than just a 25 mph fender bender.
Newer cars with their disposable, shock absorbing body panels that are designed to be absolutely demolished in a crash and absorb the impact, so that the family of four's bodies don't, are likely going to fare just fine, if not a bit diminished in their effectiveness... But that still leaves tens of thousands of cars on the roads, in every country, that are basically going to be rendered obsolete, death traps, to drive. As the heavy freight train electric vehicles, and primarily SUVs and trucks, become more common as electric becomes more prevalent.
Once again, being poor is going to be ever further a death sentence, as some rich asshole comes barreling over you, in your 2500 lb 95 civic. Him in his 11,000 pound, lifted, full sized electric truck, likely on his phone (he's important afterall), and all without a care or a thought to your safety or well being.
Full autonomy is a ways away (secretly I hope it gets sabotaged and never comes into fruition anyway, eff the good of mankind, I wanna drive damnit!). Big, heavy, electric SUVs and trucks, are not.

@justhecuke2 года назад

@@danielnelson4881 In many ways, those smaller cars are safer in head on collisions because the bigger vehicles will go up and over. There's been a few high profile examples of this with a recent one happening to a baseball player, if memory serves. Then there's also the added maneuverability and handling of a smaller car vs. a bigger one that makes it less likely to lose control or simply tip over.
But, you're right that bigger, heavier cars pose safety issues for other cars. However, our society usually doesn't require that you look out for the safety of others beyond normal care. We don't make a fuss about bicyclists killing pedestrians or fruit-bearing trees killing pedestrians and car windshields (unripe pine cones being a common example in the California Bay Area). Just not something that we normally do.

@danielnelson48812 года назад

@@justhecuke I was referring specifically to the weight, not necessarily the size, although the two are usually connected. The cars affected by this won't all be small, and definitely won't all be able to go under the freight train of electric vehicle stampeding toward it. I'm referring simply to older vehicles that weren't designed with crumple zones in mind.
Also I never said anyone was going to make a fuss out of it, just that if you drive one of these pre crumple-zone vehicles, crashes are going to be many times more deadly for you with the rising numbers of heavy electric vehicles, and the higher possibility that the car you just got in a head on collision with is one of them. Old collector cars are going to become much more dangerous to drive than they already are, with the kinetic energy of a 10,000 pound electric car to keep in mind when taking them for a cruise.