GalaIzzy·8/18/2019in General
Maybe the distance is a bit different, but most of everything else (except for Josuke's signature ability: to heal others), is more or less the same.
I'm kinda new to Jojo, so I haven't been able to read the manga yet. part 4 though is easily becoming my favorite so far. Part 3 is a good second.
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Jotaro KujoJosuke HigashikataThe WorldCrazy Diamond
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DreamyCourt·10/28/2019
Kingasdfg wrote:
That's not how it works. Just because they're all Close-Range types doesn't mean they're all the same. Silver Chariot and Magician's Red are both Close-Range types, as is The Hand. That doesn't mean they can all use the time-stop. It's supposed to be Star Platinum's ability. The original plan when Araki wrote Stardust Crusaders was that The World would have the abilities of all the Tarot card Stands, but he realized that would be too powerful and scaled it back so that it only had the same ability as Star Platinum. It's not intrinsic to all Close-range type Stands.
Besides, Crazy Diamond already has it's own ability and a C in Developmental Potential, not really high enough to warrant unlocking a whole new ability.
Hierophant have an D in Developmental Potential and have 3 abilitys man
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DreamyCourt wrote:
Kingasdfg wrote:
That's not how it works. Just because they're all Close-Range types doesn't mean they're all the same. Silver Chariot and Magician's Red are both Close-Range types, as is The Hand. That doesn't mean they can all use the time-stop. It's supposed to be Star Platinum's ability. The original plan when Araki wrote Stardust Crusaders was that The World would have the abilities of all the Tarot card Stands, but he realized that would be too powerful and scaled it back so that it only had the same ability as Star Platinum. It's not intrinsic to all Close-range type Stands.
Besides, Crazy Diamond already has it's own ability and a C in Developmental Potential, not really high enough to warrant unlocking a whole new ability.
Hierophant have an D in Developmental Potential and have 3 abilitys man
Yeah I know, that's my point. Kakyoin has already mastered everything Hierophant Green can do, so it has a low development potential. It's potential is low because it's already achieved it's max power.
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Cackleviola·10/29/2019
Notice anything about Star Platinums original stats?
He has an A in development potential
And now look at his stats after he unlocks time stop
Still an A (at least in part 4)
This means that Star Platinum always could stop time and Jotaro just either didn’t realize he had it or just didn’t use it for whatever reason. Time stop is an inherent ability. Just like Josuke’s healing.
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Kingasdfg·10/29/2019
Cackleviola wrote:Notice anything about Star Platinums original stats?
He has an A in development potential
And now look at his stats after he unlocks time stop
Still an A (at least in part 4)
This means that Star Platinum always could stop time and Jotaro just either didn’t realize he had it or just didn’t use it for whatever reason. Time stop is an inherent ability. Just like Josuke’s healing.
Right, and when he perfects the time stop in part 6, his development potential decreases to a C. Dev potential goes down when the Stand gets stronger.
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This-One-Berd-Guy·2/4/2020
The only reason the world and star platinum can stop time is because they are the same type of stand so they would unlock the same things but crazy diamond can heal/change things where as star platinum and the world can’t do that which means crazy diamond is unable to use time stop
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DiavoloBoss009·2/12/2020
All of them can wield time stop
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RoquetteGamerWIKI·3/8/2020
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Idktbhbroimnotcreative·3/8/2020
Kingasdfg wrote:
That's not how it works. Just because they're all Close-Range types doesn't mean they're all the same. Silver Chariot and Magician's Red are both Close-Range types, as is The Hand. That doesn't mean they can all use the time-stop. It's supposed to be Star Platinum's ability. The original plan when Araki wrote Stardust Crusaders was that The World would have the abilities of all the Tarot card Stands, but he realized that would be too powerful and scaled it back so that it only had the same ability as Star Platinum. It's not intrinsic to all Close-range type Stands.
Besides, Crazy Diamond already has it's own ability and a C in Developmental Potential, not really high enough to warrant unlocking a whole new ability.
I think what they are trying to say, is that because Crazy Diamond can return things back to their original state or "turning time back" for that object/person. It's sort of like a more controlled version of Eri's quirk from My Hero Academia.
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Idktbhbroimnotcreative·3/8/2020
Kingasdfg wrote:
That's not how it works. Just because they're all Close-Range types doesn't mean they're all the same. Silver Chariot and Magician's Red are both Close-Range types, as is The Hand. That doesn't mean they can all use the time-stop. It's supposed to be Star Platinum's ability. The original plan when Araki wrote Stardust Crusaders was that The World would have the abilities of all the Tarot card Stands, but he realized that would be too powerful and scaled it back so that it only had the same ability as Star Platinum. It's not intrinsic to all Close-range type Stands.
Besides, Crazy Diamond already has it's own ability and a C in Developmental Potential, not really high enough to warrant unlocking a whole new ability.
I think what they are trying to say, is that because Crazy Diamond can return things back to their original state or "turning time back" for that object/person. It's sort of like a more controlled version of Eri's quirk from My Hero Academia. Saying that they are all alike.
(Edited by Idktbhbroimnotcreative)
Kingasdfg·3/8/2020
Idktbhbroimnotcreative wrote:
Kingasdfg wrote:
That's not how it works. Just because they're all Close-Range types doesn't mean they're all the same. Silver Chariot and Magician's Red are both Close-Range types, as is The Hand. That doesn't mean they can all use the time-stop. It's supposed to be Star Platinum's ability. The original plan when Araki wrote Stardust Crusaders was that The World would have the abilities of all the Tarot card Stands, but he realized that would be too powerful and scaled it back so that it only had the same ability as Star Platinum. It's not intrinsic to all Close-range type Stands.
Besides, Crazy Diamond already has it's own ability and a C in Developmental Potential, not really high enough to warrant unlocking a whole new ability.
I think what they are trying to say, is that because Crazy Diamond can return things back to their original state or "turning time back" for that object/person. It's sort of like a more controlled version of Eri's quirk from My Hero Academia. Saying that they are all alike.
If that where actually how Crazy Diamond worked, I'd be inclined to give it some thought. But it's not. Crazy Diamond doesn't "turn back time" on objects, it fixes them. People Josuke heals don't lose their memories of what happened, and sometimes Crazy Diamond even straight up alters objects rather than fixing them.
If it were really time-alteration, then Crazy Diamond should be able to bring dead people back to life. But that's a no-go.
(Edited by Kingasdfg)
What do you think?