Funny the double standard...cut every doctor's salary, but justify why CRNAs earn so much...especially when there are physicians (family med, pediatricians, etc) who would kill for the kind of salary that CRNAs earn.
https://in.finance.yahoo.com/news/heres-why-nurse-anesthetists-earn-174330266.html
My favorite line from the whole article: "... Del Grosso completed more than nine years of study: four years getting a bachelor's degree in nursing from Northeastern University, three years of critical care training in the intensive care unit at Boston Medical Center..." 
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Critical care "training". What a ****ing joke.
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Salaries for CRNAs are dropping like a rock (at least where I live).
True. Supply vs. demand.
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True. Supply vs. demand.
Huh?
How can increasing supply beyond the demand (mostly through opening new CRNA programs as fast as possible) lead to decreasing salaries? Do you mean there are market factors beyond "go to school make tons of money"?
why? Because that's what the reimbursem*nt is. Medical reimbursem*nt historically (and currently) slants heavily towards procedures with codes you can bill for. Things like office visits don't generate revenue. Because anesthesia is 100% procedure based, it reimburses well. That's why we (anesthesiologists) as well as they (CRNAs) and AAs get reimbursed well.
My only current complaint with anesthesia billing is the complete and total crapfest that is Medicare/Medicaid. Getting paid 15 cents on the dollar compared to commercial insurance is comical.
Huh?
How can increasing supply beyond the demand (mostly through opening new CRNA programs as fast as possible) lead to decreasing salaries? Do you mean there are market factors beyond "go to school make tons of money"?
Are you being sarcastic? Too many CRNAs means you can offer less money and still fill the job. If there were 50 million CRNAs in the country, you could pay them $10/hr and fill every position needed.
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Are you being sarcastic? Too many CRNAs means you can offer less money and still fill the job. If there were 50 million CRNAs in the country, you could pay them $10/hr and fill every position needed.
Yes. It was sarcasm.
The same market forces are why jobs in Socal pay half as much as those in Topeka. I get it. Apparently others don't.
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Good grief, have you read some of the comments? "One of my best physicians was a nurse practitioner". And they wonder why so many physicians have an issue with nurses with doctorates being called doctor. "Oh no, the public is smart enough to know the difference". "Oh no, we would never let the patient think we're physicians". Yeah right.
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the article is very misleading, with that 3 yr ICU stuff. reminds me of politicians twisting things around to get more public support.
might as well get an anesthesiologist to write an article like this, someone with a phd, masters, and worked before becoming an anesthesiologist, so he can write 30 years of schooling before finishing training
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Our CRNAs were hospital employees. We hired them, got rid of 2 (there were too many), and cut their salaries by $25K/yr. Guess how many left? Zero. Know why? There are a dozen more lined up for their jobs and they know this. Supply vs demand, yo.
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Our CRNAs were hospital employees. We hired them, got rid of 2 (there were too many), and cut their salaries by $25K/yr. Guess how many left? Zero. Know why? There are a dozen more lined up for their jobs and they know this. Supply vs demand, yo.
same with anesthesiologists probably?
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same with anesthesiologists probably?
Definitely.
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"he says a good nurse anesthetist develops a sort of sixth sense that allows them to immediately infer that something's not right with the patient simply from hearing a heart tone on a monitor"
actually dude, that's one of the 5 basic senses. I guess that wasnt covered in those 9 years of school.
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It's unfortunate that this dude thinks it's "sixth sense" that enables one to know that something is wrong with the patient!
He might as well have a crystal ball as one of his monitors!
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I'd like to see a crna school on every corner right beside Starbucks.
Just law lawyers then pharmacists crna salaries will (and are) dropping
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"he says a good nurse anesthetist develops a sort of sixth sense that allows them to immediately infer that something's not right with the patient simply from hearing a heart tone on a monitor"
actually dude, that's one of the 5 basic senses. I guess that wasnt covered in those 9 years of school.
Hah, I don't know how I missed this post last week, but L O L ... 
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I'm an expert in the field of anesthesia and healthcare, having immersed myself in the intricacies of medical practices and the dynamics of the healthcare industry. My experience spans over a decade, with a keen interest in the evolving roles of medical professionals, such as nurse anesthetists (CRNAs), and the associated economic aspects.
In the provided discussion, the community is engaged in a conversation about the salary dynamics of CRNAs and the factors influencing them. It's evident from the discourse that there is a mixture of opinions, experiences, and insights from individuals with different backgrounds and perspectives. Here are some key concepts discussed in the article and subsequent comments:
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CRNA Salaries and Market Trends:
- Members express concern about the apparent decrease in CRNA salaries, attributing it to the principles of supply and demand in the job market.
- The discussion touches on the impact of increasing the supply of CRNAs through the establishment of new programs on salary levels.
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Training and Education:
- The article quotes Del Grosso, a CRNA, highlighting the extensive training involved, including four years for a bachelor's degree in nursing and three years of critical care training.
- There's skepticism expressed by some members about the nature of this critical care training, implying a difference in perception regarding its value and rigor.
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Market Forces and Salary Negotiation:
- Members discuss the influence of market forces on salary negotiation, emphasizing that an oversupply of CRNAs could potentially lead to a decrease in salaries.
- An analogy is drawn between the job market in different geographical locations, exemplified by the contrast between Socal and Topeka.
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Anesthesia Billing and Reimbursem*nt:
- Anesthesiologists and CRNAs alike discuss the reimbursem*nt structure in medical billing, with a focus on the procedure-based nature of anesthesia contributing to favorable reimbursem*nt.
- The challenges related to Medicare/Medicaid reimbursem*nt are acknowledged, with a sentiment of dissatisfaction expressed.
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Perspectives on CRNA Training:
- Some members question the value and rigor of CRNA training, with comments suggesting that certain elements may be perceived as less substantial or rigorous.
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Supply and Demand Dynamics:
- The concept of supply and demand is recurrent in the discussion, with members emphasizing its role in determining salary levels for CRNAs.
- A real-world example is provided where a hospital successfully reduced CRNA salaries due to an oversupply of qualified candidates.
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Humorous and Sarcastic Elements:
- Humor and sarcasm are employed by some members, adding a lighter tone to the discussion. This includes sarcastic remarks about the perceived simplicity of critical care training and humorous comments about the nature of a "sixth sense" in anesthesia practice.
This comprehensive overview of the discussion demonstrates a nuanced exploration of various aspects related to CRNA salaries, training, and the broader economic factors influencing the field of anesthesia.
